Zone 56 public housing depends on 20/6

[garyhk]

I am sorry Jeff but I think you are wrong on many of the points you make.

All the things that you write as being bad for TC could in fact be good for TC, on balance I think.  More people means more money means more infrastructure and better (higher) value property for property owners besides the joy of being able to help those poor people by providing housing that is better than a cage.

We can all well afford to help the poor in this city BUT not only that we should help them because it is the RIGHT thing to do.

You want to keep the public housing people in Yat Tung and Sunny Bay, in a sort of ghetto type living for those people, right?  A sort of apartheid.  That's what is best, if we can't see them then they don't exist do they and we don't need to worry.  Job Done.  I expect Disney would also not want all those public housing tenants spoiling Sunny Bay.  Maybe we can send them to live in China, that would be much better for Hong Kong.

I doubt the highway would ever get bumper to bumper as you say BUT with more people here using the MTR the frequency of the Tung Chung line could improve a lot.  We don't want people in their cars polluting the atmosphere.

I still can not see how plot 56 adversely affects the residents of TC or even CC.  As I have noted before EVERYONE who lives here must have been well aware of the Tung Chung Development Plan it was not a secret nor was it a recent decisioon; you can't now object now you are an existing resident.  Get real.  And what about the other plot which is under construction?  Isn't that a much bigger blight on the landscape affecting more of CC than plot 56???  Ahh, yes the difference is that those flats are NOT public housing.  I  really hope that somewhere deep inside you have compassion for your fellow citizens one and all.

Thank you for your understanding too.

[JEFF LAM YUET]

Gary, I understand your concern. If this is what the majority people of Tung Chung thinks, I would love to help. I objected 56 plan cos there are over 3500 signatures and the majority of residents I reach oppose it so far. However, l am open to opinions, please feel free to discuss everything with me and all voice will be counted equally and fairly. I also love to help the rest part of HK and people in need, just I need to care people next door and our own community first with limited time and resource. as a person work for our community, I don't mind to help extra more people if the majority of our residents prefer me to do so, the point is if it is what people want here, and there. I think as educated people, we can respect others, allow difference and share common goals. Thx a lot.

[garyhk]

So... following your logic if 3500 people said to you to throw paint at the HK CE you would do that too?

Surely you have your own mind and do not just follow like a sheep?  If you were a leader you would lead by good example and try to convince the greedy sheep that they are wrong.  I am not convinced you even recognise how wrong all this selfish attitude makes the sheep look.

Anyway, good luck to spending (wasting) your time on a matter that was decided a long time ago and there is almost no chance of changing these plans.  Better to embrace the change and try to get as much out of the government as you can (e.g. more health services, better schools, more MTR stops, better entertainment facilities, more local jobs, etc, etc) rather than look mean by trying to deny the less fortunate the help they need.

However, for all my criticism you are at least engaged in local matters which is more than can be said for our elected officials.  Why don't you stand for election and then be involved in the actual decision making?  There is one coming up, you could surely get enough support fromt the estates over which you are caring?

If you do intend to stand for elected office you will need the votes of the poor as well as there are many more poor people than there are rich...

[jayd1976]

Hi Gary,

 I will support Jeff in all ways. I dont know whether you are brought any property or not in Caribbean Coast. But if you have then you are not an wise investor. The reason I believe so many landlords brought in Caribbean Coast was due to the clean and pleasant environment. Caribbean Coast is so called a Low Cost High Rise Property [Same as those in Mid Levels or Pok Fu Lam]. If the governments starts building Housing Estates opposite our property then the standard will go down. We do not look down on the people who lives in Housing Estate but we knew there is a difference. Assume if Housing Estates are build in Mid Level or Peak or Pok Fu Lam then who will buy the property. 

Hi Jeff,

 I hope your hard work will pay you back.

[charles]

sites that come available for auction in mid levels or pok fu lam are snapped up by the big boys, often enough not on the cheap.
Look who started building in front of cc and look who's put a bid in for 56 ...

as for clean environment - it's probably on par with the rest of HK but with that airport in front of us I doubt 'clean' is the right word.

[JEFF LAM YUET]

Thx for everyone's input, I will do things according to our decision, opinions of others, benefit of the estate and community, fairness of the practice, etc. I care both middle class and poor people, but with limited resource, I must focus on the people around us, and their interest, including living standard and assets of them. We can also help poor people in more value adding ways, I prefer zone 56 to hsve social facility, but if it is sold for private housing, Yat Tung and Fu Tung residents can waive rent for ten years. Using 56 to build public housing isn't the only way to help people. I also did a lot social works for those in need, like the photos shown, I give hygne packs, rice dumpling, and daily products to people in need. I hope people appreciate how I try so hard to protest interest of middle class as well as offer my extra effort to help relatively poor people. I hope we all respect each other, do as much as possible to contribute to our society in any way that is constructive. With your trust and support, I can do more than the decision maker (do you know much about what our civic party councilor has done in the last four years with over two millions of tax payers money spent on her and her successor? being a cocuncillor may not really help the residents and community much unless he or she has heart, hands and mind to take real action). However, if it is needed, and I am supported by my friends here, then I will seiously consider it.  After working for our lovalbe estates and great community for over 4 years, Ihereby seek your help just in case I have such luck to be a candidate one day. I will need helps from our English, Indian and all non-Chinse friends here, please (also kindly invite your friends) register to be voters by 16/7. Thanks.

[garyhk]

Hi Jayd1976. I am interested about being an unwise investor. 

Can you explain why, if I did indeed purchase my home, why I am not a wise investor?

By the way, I too support Jeff in a lot of his actions on our behalf.  BUT, when I think he is wrong I would like to share with him that I think he is wrong.  I am not so arrogant to think I MUST be right and he MUST be wrong, I just venture my opinion.  I accept he may be right.  On this particular issue, I feel that there is collective hypocrisy about Plot 56 which exists ONLY and ONLY because it is awful, dreaded, terrible public housing and should not be located anywhere near CC.  Not a murmur about the other plot which is a much greater eye sore on CC properties, a much greater eye sore.  Would you not agree?

Anyway, back to your point about being unwise.  Please explain a bit more?

Whilst never looking down on those public housing estate people, what is the difference you refer to?

Thanks a lot. It is good to share opinions in an open way.